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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello!

We were reading about the STARS program in Nebraska for one of my grad school classes in Colorado, and our teacher informed us of this radical change that recently happened. From what I&#039;ve read, the STARS program seems very different from the CSAP we have here, and it seems as though it works a lot better. 

I&#039;m sorry to see such a creative, effective program change into something that doesn&#039;t really work in most of the other states that use it.</description>
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<p>We were reading about the STARS program in Nebraska for one of my grad school classes in Colorado, and our teacher informed us of this radical change that recently happened. From what I&#8217;ve read, the STARS program seems very different from the CSAP we have here, and it seems as though it works a lot better. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to see such a creative, effective program change into something that doesn&#8217;t really work in most of the other states that use it.</p>
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		<title>By: angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A defiant position is not one that is really going to convince me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A defiant position is not one that is really going to convince me.</p>
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		<title>By: angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is always a reason for concern. While you are probably taking excellent care of your children, there are parents out there that are not doing right by their children and do not want the proper authorities finding out. 

I don&#039;t see anything wrong with children being made to take tests to see where they are at for their age AND to make sure that the parents are really teaching their kids what they say they are teaching them.  

A defiant position is not one that is really going to convince me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is always a reason for concern. While you are probably taking excellent care of your children, there are parents out there that are not doing right by their children and do not want the proper authorities finding out. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see anything wrong with children being made to take tests to see where they are at for their age AND to make sure that the parents are really teaching their kids what they say they are teaching them.  </p>
<p>A defiant position is not one that is really going to convince me.</p>
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		<title>By: Danyiell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danyiell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am trying to understand your confusion. I guess the only thing I can say to try and alleviate the communication gap is this: We aren&#039;t interested in what everyone thinks is the better school system. We aren&#039;t interested in whose scoring higher or whose &quot;winning.&quot; That isn&#039;t the problem. The problem is that we are pulling our children out of a government critiqued environment, classes, learning materials, and tests. 

Many homeschoolers, ourselves included, have tests that we give our children once a year. In fact, in Colorado, where I am, it is a law that the children be tested every other year starting in the 3rd grade. So I am not saying that we won&#039;t conform  to the law. What I am saying is that it shouldn&#039;t be required for a parent to have to prove anything unless there is some reason for concern. 

For the record, homeschooling may not be better for all people. I have never said that homeschooling is the best way to school all children. If you have a good district and you&#039;re happy with them, then you have chosen the best thing for your child, but my district is not good. I, personally believe that any school governed by the government is heading for problems, but I have heard some parents go on and on about how wonderful their childrens&#039; schools are so there must be some good ones out there. 

Again, we don&#039;t care if our kids score higher or lower. What we care about is that we don&#039;t feel that the state or government should be able to dictate that we prove to them that our children are learning. We pulled our children out of their schools because, as far as we were concerned, they were incapable of making the distinction between children who were learning and children who were just sitting bored in their classrooms.

I hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying to understand your confusion. I guess the only thing I can say to try and alleviate the communication gap is this: We aren&#8217;t interested in what everyone thinks is the better school system. We aren&#8217;t interested in whose scoring higher or whose &#8220;winning.&#8221; That isn&#8217;t the problem. The problem is that we are pulling our children out of a government critiqued environment, classes, learning materials, and tests. </p>
<p>Many homeschoolers, ourselves included, have tests that we give our children once a year. In fact, in Colorado, where I am, it is a law that the children be tested every other year starting in the 3rd grade. So I am not saying that we won&#8217;t conform  to the law. What I am saying is that it shouldn&#8217;t be required for a parent to have to prove anything unless there is some reason for concern. </p>
<p>For the record, homeschooling may not be better for all people. I have never said that homeschooling is the best way to school all children. If you have a good district and you&#8217;re happy with them, then you have chosen the best thing for your child, but my district is not good. I, personally believe that any school governed by the government is heading for problems, but I have heard some parents go on and on about how wonderful their childrens&#8217; schools are so there must be some good ones out there. </p>
<p>Again, we don&#8217;t care if our kids score higher or lower. What we care about is that we don&#8217;t feel that the state or government should be able to dictate that we prove to them that our children are learning. We pulled our children out of their schools because, as far as we were concerned, they were incapable of making the distinction between children who were learning and children who were just sitting bored in their classrooms.</p>
<p>I hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I would have to be a home schooling Mom in order to relate to what the home schooling Moms have been telling me. 

&lt;b&gt;This is what keeps crossing my mind:&lt;/b&gt;

I guess I just don’t understand why homeschooling Mom’s wouldn’t want their children to take tests that kids in public school are being made to take. What’s the problem? Your child is going to outscore the public school kids anyway, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I would have to be a home schooling Mom in order to relate to what the home schooling Moms have been telling me. </p>
<p><b>This is what keeps crossing my mind:</b></p>
<p>I guess I just don’t understand why homeschooling Mom’s wouldn’t want their children to take tests that kids in public school are being made to take. What’s the problem? Your child is going to outscore the public school kids anyway, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Gayla McCord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayla McCord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is similar to the chicken before the egg.

If all kids are tested the same and it&#039;s known beforehand then there&#039;s no excuse for lame education. 

And, like Angela, I&#039;m not well versed on this topic, but it would seem to me that if homeschooling is the better education then the home schooled would breeze right through standardized tests.  But that&#039;s from my perspective and I&#039;m kinda dumb to this topic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is similar to the chicken before the egg.</p>
<p>If all kids are tested the same and it&#8217;s known beforehand then there&#8217;s no excuse for lame education. </p>
<p>And, like Angela, I&#8217;m not well versed on this topic, but it would seem to me that if homeschooling is the better education then the home schooled would breeze right through standardized tests.  But that&#8217;s from my perspective and I&#8217;m kinda dumb to this topic</p>
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		<title>By: angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I just don&#039;t understand why homeschooling Mom&#039;s wouldn&#039;t want their children to take tests that kids in public school are being made to take. What&#039;s the problem? Your child is going to outscore the public school kids anyway, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I just don&#8217;t understand why homeschooling Mom&#8217;s wouldn&#8217;t want their children to take tests that kids in public school are being made to take. What&#8217;s the problem? Your child is going to outscore the public school kids anyway, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Danyiell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danyiell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that in order for you to understand why we don&#039;t want our children tested by the government you need to understand why we took our children out of the public schools in the first place. We are tired of them not taking the education of our children seriously. I personally am tired of the &quot;No child left behind,&quot; rhetoric when its obvious that children in the public schools are left behind every day. We, as homeschoolers want the freedom to teach what we want when we want to. When we decided to homeschool it wasn&#039;t just a spur of the moment decision to have our children on permanent vacation. It was a life altering decision that is extremely difficult to continue especially with the current prices of food and what not. Yes, I realize many people would say &quot;Well you chose that.&quot; and you know what I would agree, but as I will accept my consequences whatever that may be, I have to say the same to you who say &quot;Well my child has to take a standardized test and he or she is in public school.&quot; Yes he or she does, but that is your consequence and your choice not ours. So to each his or her own.

While many people may not agree with what I say, we can agree that we have the right to disagree but since I had my children and I know my children then I believe I know whats best for them. Would I say that about all mothers? No, but usually those types of mothers wouldn&#039;t have the time or the inclination to have their children with them all day every day. They wouldn&#039;t want the responsiblity and the cost of homeschooling. 

In my district (Ellicott District in Colorado) I checked out the results for the csap (Colorado&#039;s Standardized Test). The 3rd graders results were as follows: 2007 and 2005 there were 0 advanced, 2006 had 1 advanced, and 2004 had 5 advanced students. Proficiency percentages for all four years ranged between 44% and 57%. Partially proficient for the abover years ranged from a 22% to a 31% and unsatisfactory results ranged from 16% to 28%. 

Seriously and these are the people who the government funds to teach children. The government should be looking to their own schools and then we wouldn&#039;t have to homeschool. I have to admit that I also have another reason for homeschooling. Evolution is not what I want my child believing in, but for their sake I teach the facts of both evolution and creation and give them the choice that the public schools wouldn&#039;t. 

I don&#039;t believe that the government is any position to demand that our homeschooled children take a test that they can&#039;t even get their public schooled children to pass proficiently. My children, by the way would be at least in the proficient range, because I care about what they do and I teach them in a way that they enjoy learning.

Just my thoughts. Sorry to take up so much time and room.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that in order for you to understand why we don&#8217;t want our children tested by the government you need to understand why we took our children out of the public schools in the first place. We are tired of them not taking the education of our children seriously. I personally am tired of the &#8220;No child left behind,&#8221; rhetoric when its obvious that children in the public schools are left behind every day. We, as homeschoolers want the freedom to teach what we want when we want to. When we decided to homeschool it wasn&#8217;t just a spur of the moment decision to have our children on permanent vacation. It was a life altering decision that is extremely difficult to continue especially with the current prices of food and what not. Yes, I realize many people would say &#8220;Well you chose that.&#8221; and you know what I would agree, but as I will accept my consequences whatever that may be, I have to say the same to you who say &#8220;Well my child has to take a standardized test and he or she is in public school.&#8221; Yes he or she does, but that is your consequence and your choice not ours. So to each his or her own.</p>
<p>While many people may not agree with what I say, we can agree that we have the right to disagree but since I had my children and I know my children then I believe I know whats best for them. Would I say that about all mothers? No, but usually those types of mothers wouldn&#8217;t have the time or the inclination to have their children with them all day every day. They wouldn&#8217;t want the responsiblity and the cost of homeschooling. </p>
<p>In my district (Ellicott District in Colorado) I checked out the results for the csap (Colorado&#8217;s Standardized Test). The 3rd graders results were as follows: 2007 and 2005 there were 0 advanced, 2006 had 1 advanced, and 2004 had 5 advanced students. Proficiency percentages for all four years ranged between 44% and 57%. Partially proficient for the abover years ranged from a 22% to a 31% and unsatisfactory results ranged from 16% to 28%. </p>
<p>Seriously and these are the people who the government funds to teach children. The government should be looking to their own schools and then we wouldn&#8217;t have to homeschool. I have to admit that I also have another reason for homeschooling. Evolution is not what I want my child believing in, but for their sake I teach the facts of both evolution and creation and give them the choice that the public schools wouldn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that the government is any position to demand that our homeschooled children take a test that they can&#8217;t even get their public schooled children to pass proficiently. My children, by the way would be at least in the proficient range, because I care about what they do and I teach them in a way that they enjoy learning.</p>
<p>Just my thoughts. Sorry to take up so much time and room.</p>
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		<title>By: Our priorities in Nebraska are flawed, right? : Domestic Divapalooza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Our priorities in Nebraska are flawed, right? : Domestic Divapalooza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Herald caught my attention. One is about the controversial topic of testing all students equally, we discussed that this week, and the other deals with the stadium issue for the College World [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Herald caught my attention. One is about the controversial topic of testing all students equally, we discussed that this week, and the other deals with the stadium issue for the College World [...]</p>
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		<title>By: angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So basically the kids have to pass the test in order to move to the next grade. Is that right?

If homeschoolers that are at a 1st grade level are ready then why shouldn&#039;t they take the test along with the public school kids? 

Also, if I remember correctly isn&#039;t it up to the parents to decide when their children can start school? 

Some parents put their kids in school at age 4, 5, or even 6. I would imagine each parent knows what their kids are capable of. 

The other thing I&#039;m thinking of is won&#039;t the material that will be on the tests be accessible so that everybody in school whether public, private, or homeschool will have a chance to prepare?

Since homeschooled children tend to do better on these things according to the studies that you have found then maybe you guys really don&#039;t have anything to worry about, ya know? 

I don&#039;t know.. am I missing something more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So basically the kids have to pass the test in order to move to the next grade. Is that right?</p>
<p>If homeschoolers that are at a 1st grade level are ready then why shouldn&#8217;t they take the test along with the public school kids? </p>
<p>Also, if I remember correctly isn&#8217;t it up to the parents to decide when their children can start school? </p>
<p>Some parents put their kids in school at age 4, 5, or even 6. I would imagine each parent knows what their kids are capable of. </p>
<p>The other thing I&#8217;m thinking of is won&#8217;t the material that will be on the tests be accessible so that everybody in school whether public, private, or homeschool will have a chance to prepare?</p>
<p>Since homeschooled children tend to do better on these things according to the studies that you have found then maybe you guys really don&#8217;t have anything to worry about, ya know? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know.. am I missing something more?</p>
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