They have taken themselves upstairs and keep singing that song, “they like to move-it move-it” — some other Disney Movie that is about to come out.

As for the subject at hand.. I still say that hatred from the pulpit is wrong. I don’t understand how a person could have somebody that is so hateful from the pulpit as a mentor for twenty-some-odd years.

I don’t get it and probably never will.. oh well.. that’s life.

That being said, how’d you end up throwing James Dobson of all people, into that camp??

But to address your question, there’s a big difference between people who support YOU, and people who YOU support.

Pat, Jerry et al are going for McCain because they have very conservative views and McCain is their closest chance of having someone who’s leaning slightly to the right, even though McCain isn’t NEARLY as conservative as they are. To THEM, McCain is the best hope between the two candidates– the lesser of two evils. Do you think they’d be pulling for McCain if Huckabee was still in the running?
HECK NO!

The candidates have NO CONTROL over who supports them and votes for them. They have TOTAL control over who THEY support.

People don’t really seem to care that Wright was supporting Obama. What bothers people is that OBAMA supported WRIGHT.

There’s a big difference.

BTW Falwell didn’t blame 9/11 on homos, he blamed it on God.

Besides, Wright is anti-American in his hatred. None of the fundies you mentioned would preach “God damn America” as Wright did. Obama is a communist front and Rev Wright is a willing fellow traveler.

How about Jerry Falwell? Pat Robertson? James Dobson? Hello? Anyone home?

If you have no problem with the GOP courting the more hateful Christian rightists (remember Falwell and Robertson blaming 9/11 on evil liberal feminist secularist atheist gays?) then you forfeit the right to complain about Rev. Wright.

Hatred spoken from a pulpit is another reason why I lost my faith in god. While that is not a reflection on god, it is a reflection on man and how people manipulate god and god’s message to their own means. Religion in most cases can be a good thing. It is the few institutions or groups that use religion as a way to invoke hatred (not just Wright’s church, but others such as Hagee’s or Ray Comfort’s group)that give religion a bad image for some people (me included).

Nothing. It’s exactly the same.
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I agree. They think because they have endured hardship in the past, they are entitled to a pass. I THINK NOT!!!

Seriously, (or not, as you please) I wasn’t trying to preach. I was just sayin’… ;)

Everything I think about the kingdom I got from the parables of Jesus. For me, the rest is just scholarship, and I’ve had plenty of scriptural scholarship.

Fun & Easy Bible Quiz: Which passages of the Bible, (both Old and New Testaments) were actually written by God?

I understand the difference between the “kind” of evil that would cause someone to molest children vs. doing drugs– there IS a difference. But sin is sin and ALL sin, regardless of severity keep you out of heaven. UNLESS you repent and have a change of heart.
The scumbag who molests children isn’t going to be in God’s Kingdom, but neither is a liar or a petty thief.

Rev. 12:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

Matt. 7:21
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; <but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

I imagine our defintions of hell are different.
I don’t believe that people who don’t believe in God, or those who DO believe in God but don’t repent are going to “hell” as in — burning fire pits and volcanoes buried deep inside the earth. I believe hell is merely being seperated from God. There will be those who are allowed to enter his kingdom, and those who won’t. Those who won’t will be in a state of hell, because they will have a perfect recollection of their lives and won’t be able to be with God.

So really, it doesn’t matter what sin we commit. Sin is sin, even though it does have it’s “degrees” of “evil-ness”. So if we’re “unclean” because we lie or because we hurt children, either one will keep us out of God presence unless we repent.
I think the difference in “Degree” of sin is more a matter of how much more difficult it is to reach true repentence. Part of true repentence is reconciliation and restitution. A thief can return what he’s stolen, and show true remorse by giving even MORE than what he took, etc.
But how does someone who abused children make up for that? That’s a much harder thing to make restitution for.